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Just read this article below and did not realise the extent of Howard's lies. Did not realise how many there were and his modus operandi when it comes to getting out of the glare of truth. Here it is:

http://www.alp.org.au/features/lies.php

Its quite lengthy but worth the time and effort cos only then will you realise that we Aussies have been given a hiding. The equivalent of being flogged by the best liar that ever lived....and many of us have not seen the truth of it yet.

Our lives will go down the plughole if Howard is re-elected. Thats for sure. We will be clinging on to lower and lower expectations of our futures until the reality will be too bright to ignore....but it will be too late by then.

I suggest that we pool some money together and take out one or more adverts in the SMH and /or the Melbourne Age or other mainstream papers quoting exactly from this article (and a few others I have seen & saved on file).

I want to open people's eyes, not just talk about it on this forum. I want to use the internet to do this as its a good opportunity......It;s getting late. Really late.

Anyone want to put their hand up for contributions of any amount however small or large? For those that do, we can discuss the details off-line if you wish.
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Unregistered said:

Labour never lies of course....
October 15, 2007

Unregistered said:

I mean Labor
October 15, 2007

Chato said:

Lists of non-core John's lies have been posted on the Internet in various places for years. The list just keeps growing - just like Australian Household debt.
Never underestimate the corruption of the Oz dullard public. A full fascist government is very dear to their evil, black little hearts.
October 15, 2007

Fuckedupville said:

Yeh, please give us the honest Labor Party so we can all feel as if we aren't getting ripped off.

Let's pretend that branch stacking is not rife in the labor party. Lets pretend that Poker Machine deals, property development deals, ethnic branch stack rewards, deal after deal after deal after deal are not being done. Illegal deals that are having a detrimental effect on communities in every state across the nation.

Fiscal and 'other' rewards for branchstackers across the country - and the ALP leaders will not speak a word about the problem...just ask John Cain or other ex-Labor people about how rife the problem is.

The FACT is that you cannot rise up in the Labor Party unless you sell your soul in many various and extreme (and often illegal) ways) to the branchstackers...

No deal - no vote.

Labor Party membership at an all time low. Many members only exist on paper. This has been documented in daily newspapers - however the State Leaders and federal MPs do nothing about it - other than hand out the perks or close a blind eye -

That is the party that is the favourite for coming into power next.

The slimey and corrupt branchstackers will rule all states as well as the nation.

Politics in Australia is as filthy as it has ever been, and operating much like a corrupt regime in some third world country is the ALP.

Welcome to COMPLETLY FUCKED UP AUSTRALIA.

The two fucked up party preferred system.

October 16, 2007

Unregistered said:

It may be old news Chato but I read a lot of stuff on the web and papers and I have never seen this comprehensive list with references of times and places. I think that not many people have in reality and there's nothing wrong with reminding them if they have esp that it is in a form that is easy to digest for the masses who need things in digestable portions these days.

I think only good can come of it at this time. I dont see why there would be any resistance to the idea from people who would like to see Howard out of office. I am going to make enquiries about advert costs.

I am serious about this. If JH gets in again, I will most probably leave Australia. Havent thought about where but who cares?
October 16, 2007

Unregistered said:

A couple of people have posted about how bad or not good Labor is.
Thats not the issue here. Its just part of politics that dishonesty and branchstacking and other ugly stuff will happen but to post on here about how bad Labor is, is not relevent because I am posting to raise money to help get the person out of office that you people on this forum talk about and have made the target of your vilification for years, so fuckin-well get focused or fuck off.

Either you want to help put an ad in as I have suggested or you can stop complaining and eat shit for the next few years.
October 16, 2007

Shit eaters unite said:

Eating shit or eating krudd. There will not be much difference. Both guaranteed to lead to nausea and leave a very bad taste in your mouth.

Enjoy.
October 16, 2007

YUGO said:

Post the ad here Ron so we can see what our money would buy. I for one despise smearing an opponent as a strategy. Let's hear a solution! Surely you're not suggesting we help you point the finger of blame while criticising us for pointing the finger? I don't think any party can offer a solution because none of the political parties in this country control the Australian economy. Can we do one one that bags both Labor and the Libs and suggests we give somebody else a go?

P.S. What's cheaper shit or krud? Which is more nutritious?
October 16, 2007

Unregistered said:

Basically, I would use the following lies from the link I posted in my initial post.

Lies numbers: 1, 7, 10, 16, 17, 18, 19, 23, 24, 25, 28, 29, 31, 32 & 34. I am open to suggestions from contributers as to increasing the number or cutting some out.

Followed by the following text:

"Truth is absolute, truth is supreme, truth is never disposable in national political life."
John Howard
ABC Radio "AM", 25 August 1995

Lies about the lies

When confronted by this record of lies, Mr Howard ducks, dodges, and diverts attention.
He resorts to his dense, lawyerly language.
He reaches for the books to find an exception, a technicality, or a qualification that can get him off the hook.

I will mention how the average taxpayer is now paying $10,300 more in tax than when he was elected.

About his promise to keep interest rates down versus the 5 rate rises. The AWB scandal, taxpayer funded political ads, new interest/action in Aboriginal affairs and climate change, money flowing into Aust from resources boom versus how it appears he and Peter Costello are the creators of this money and privacy concerns with the new identity card.

I hope that answers your question Yugo.
October 16, 2007

Ricardovitz said:

Test
October 16, 2007

Ricardovitz said:

It seems like the Anarchists are adding more and more rules every day. Before you know it, they will be wear'in blue ties, white shirts, black suits, lizard shoes and kangaroo skin briefcases.
October 16, 2007

Rumplestilskin said:

Hey Ron

Maybe you could include a few Peter Garrett quotes as well rom around the same period?
October 16, 2007

Rumplestilskin said:

Why does posting comments on this site not always work?
October 16, 2007

Unregistered said:

yeah? Like what? If most of the contributers to my project have no objection to it, I will. I am only wanting to do this cos I think it's a good idea and will help educate people. Any remarks supporting Liberal Party or telling me how bad Labor is don't make any difference to me. It's not a personal thing, mate. Purely a co-operative effort for a cause bigger than any one individual. Anyway, I have enough evidence of support from most people on Xenox from the barrage of vilification aimed at JH over the years, to feel comfortable with discussing my project here.

You have the general text of the advert now. Any questions? Who's in? email me offline if you want to discuss anything by clicking on my username.
I am willing to contribute $300 or so of my own money.
October 16, 2007

Unregistered said:

I would like to add to the advert the thing that Chato said which we never hear about in the media:

"Household Debt in Australia has reached over one trillion dollars, equal to more than 160% of average annual household income!"
October 16, 2007

TEX LUMBAGO said:

Comments should work unless you put in links to other sites etc...
Then it wont be published until checked by moderator.
October 16, 2007

XenoX News Treasurer said:

Hi Ron

And good on you for standing up with your beliefs and doing something about it.

XenoX News will absolutely support you in your endeavour, and, as acting treasurer I am willing to kick into our bank account and make a generous offer of all of, lets see, how much have we got in there...I see...well...On behalf of the XenoX News Summit Committee we are happy to donate a non refundable charitable bequest to your campaign of...um...20 cents...well...dont scoff, that will be the largest donation we have ever made....and -- well...um ....its all we have in the bank....damn tight arse subscribers...where are the fricken donations you misers! Send good whiskey, cigars and money to PO BOX 666 Darwin NT Australia before we go absolutely fuckawilly

October 17, 2007

Ricardovitz said:

Y'all need to support me so I can save you from your guberment. Here's how you can help me:

1. Buy me a plane ticket to Australia and support me becoming an Australian citizen.

2. I would promptly register as a member of your Shooter's Party.

3. Then give me money to run as a candidate for Prime Minister on the Shooter Party's ticket.

Here's what I will do for you:

1. I promise to kick John Howard's gun-banning ass (or "arse, if'n when you get me over to Australia)

2. I will insure that All Australians (unless incarcerated) would be able to purchase any knives, swords, guns, machineguns, ammo, etc. that they can afford to purchase. Incarcerated criminals would be gassed to death to save taxpayer money, and you wouldn't have to worry about grubby criminals getting their hands on weapons and going nuts.

3. I'd enact laws that would let the good citizens of Australia shoot theives, rapists, murders, burglars on site, if caught committing a crime. In fact, I'd start a social program that rewards people for shooting criminals caught in the act of committing a crime - $1,000 stipend. Saves the good taxpayers money in the long run.

October 17, 2007

Just checking said:

Picky, could we also shoot them on SIGHT?
October 17, 2007

Ricardovitz said:

Makes no nevermind to me. I'm an equal opportunity sort of guy.
October 17, 2007

XenoX News Treasurer said:

Post your bank accunt details now Ron! So we know where to deposit our money.
October 18, 2007

Unregistered said:

Well no-one has said they will contribute yet, so when they do they can ask me for it offline. If you want it so you can contribute that 20 cents you promised, I may give it to you.

Ron.
October 18, 2007

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