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Home Life and Style Lifestyles Virginia Tech's ban on guns caused Asian Rampage

Virginia Tech's ban on guns caused Asian Rampage

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When a University bans guns, it's open hunting season for Arabs and Asians. Here is a little tidbit written two years prior to the Chinese War Declaration BLACKSBURG - Virginia Tech's recent action against a student caught carrying a gun to class could draw unwanted attention from groups already angry about firearms restrictions on public college campuses.

University officials confirmed that, earlier this semester, campus police approached a student found to be carrying a concealed handgun to class. The unnamed student was not charged with any crimes because he holds a state-issued permit allowing him to carry a concealed gun. But the student could face disciplinary action from the university for violating its policy prohibiting "unauthorized possession, storage or control" of firearms on campus.

Tech spokesman Larry Hincker declined to release the student's name or specifics of the incident, citing rules protecting student confidentiality. But Hincker said Tech's ban on guns dates back several decades.

Students who violate the school policy could be called before the university's internal judicial affairs system, which has wide discretion in handing down penalties ranging from a reprimand to expulsion.

"I think it's fair to say that we believe guns don't belong in the classroom," Hincker said. "In an academic environment, we believe you should be free from fear."

Most public colleges in Virginia ban or restrict guns on campus. But the root of that authority is murky, according to some observers.

Virginia law already prohibits students or visitors from carrying guns onto the grounds of public and private K-12 schools. The state also prohibits concealed weapons in courthouses, places of worship during a service, jails and on any private property where the owner has posted a "no guns" notice. State employees are barred from possessing guns while at work unless needed for their job.

But Virginia code is silent on guns and public colleges. And two bills seeking to give college governing boards the authority to regulate firearms on campus died in committee during this year's General Assembly session.

David Briggman, a resident of Keezletown in Rockingham County, has made it his personal mission to challenge state colleges' authority to enact tougher gun restrictions than the state.

Briggman, who is a former police officer, said he forced Blue Ridge Community College to allow him to carry a gun onto campus while a student. And he sued James Madison University over its ban on concealed weapons even among permit holders. While JMU's policy still stands, Briggman said he has been told by campus police officials that they will not arrest visitors who carry a gun legally.

"It's extremely easy to challenge university policy by looking at ... whether they are given the statutory authority to regulate firearms on campus, and of course, they're not," Briggman said Tuesday.

Hincker, meanwhile, said it is not unusual for colleges to have more restrictive policies than the state. As an example, Hincker said certain chemicals and explosives that are legal on the outside are prohibited in the classroom or in dormitories for safety reasons.

"We think we have the right to adhere to and enforce that policy because, in the end, we think it's a common-sense policy for the protection of students, staff and faculty as well as guests and visitors," Hincker said.

Virginia Tech also has the backing of the Virginia Association of Chiefs of Police. In a policy position paper dated April 1, association executive director Dana Schrad wrote that the presence of guns on college campuses "adds a dangerous element to an environment in which alcohol is a compounding factor." Students should not have to be concerned about guns on campus, Schrad wrote.

"The excellent reputation of Virginia's colleges and universities depends in part on the public's belief that they are sending their college-age children to safe environments," the policy paper reads.

At least one attorney who represents college students would like to see the concealed-carry permit issue clarified.

John Robertson, the Student Legal Services attorney at Tech, said he's heard differing interpretations of the policy at Tech. Robertson, whose position is funded through the Student Government Association's budget, does not represent students in disputes with the university but offers free legal advice and services to students on civil and criminal matters.

Robertson said he would like to see either a court or the state Attorney General's Office resolve the matter. As for a university's refusal to honor a concealed-carry permit, Robertson added: "I am dubious that one particular arm of the state can do so without a particular statute."

Hincker acknowledged that the concealed guns issue had "never been tested" and that the university could be opening itself up to legal action.

"But we stand by the policy unequivocally," Hincker said.
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Liberals, Gun-grabbers, Academicians, Socialists and Hippies leave us vulnerable to Arab and Asian murder sprees.
Comments (20)add comment

LordyLordyLordy said:

This has to be from Ricky. But I suppose he is right, if only everyone had a gun they could stop each other shooting each other.

I mean, it only makes sense, doesn't it?
April 17, 2007

DOCTOR_BENWAY said:

Lordy, I think you misunderstand. Individuals wish to be responsible for themselves. What others do is their own business up to the point where it becomes "intolerable". In any case, ceding personal power to the State is no way to be safe. I do allow that you have the right to cede your own power to anyone you may wish. My RP unit has a standard form you can fill in that cedes your legal powers to myself.
April 18, 2007

Big Gay Al said:

If only one of those victims had been armed, and prepared to use their firearm, then most likely, there would be less than 32 dead people.

We never learn from history. We almost always repeat our mistakes. It's not gun control we need.

We've got thousands of gun control laws already, and they didn't help. VTech is supposed to be "free of guns." And yet, that didn't stop the massacre.
April 18, 2007

Unregistered said:

Hi Big Gay Al. I think that being a disarmed "goody two shoes" fails to cut the mustard when a gunman has you trapped in a room. I'd want to be seriously armed. We can argue gun laws later. All those poor disarmed people and their friends and families have my sympathy, but much better that the carnage was avoided or at least limited.
- Ex Liberal Voter
April 18, 2007

Ricardovitz said:

Now, it looks like some of you people are starting to get it. You might be a sexual pervert, but at least your thinking is straight when it comes to a person's responsibility for his/her own self defense.

Ever hear of the "Pink Pistols" Gay Al? They got it right too. You might hate me, and I might not like perverts all that much, but so long as we are all armed, we can live in peace even if we dont' love one another.
April 18, 2007

Wild Bill Hickok said:

Pass me meh chewin' tebbeckca
April 19, 2007

Jane said:

Hell yeah, if they all had guns they could stop each other from shooting each other. There wouldn't be a dang son of a bitch left to pull the blasted trigger. Save a lot of children in Iraq and around the place from them varmits.
April 19, 2007

Unregistered said:

Personally, it's not so much the other people I want to bear arms, it's really only myself. What the others do is something for them to work out. We live in the harsh but fair, non-core post-Johnny individualistic apocalyptic universe now!
- Ex Liberal Voter
April 19, 2007

My nose looks like a pacifier said:

I love the gun laws. If I am struggling at my job or am inadequate I can shoot my boss or whoever. This is the true meaning of liberty.
April 20, 2007

Venting Wasabi said:

In Iraq everyone has a gun... and look what fun the Yanks are having trying to hang on to the place! What the Cho massacre proves is that idiots with guns are still idiots
April 20, 2007

Herr Fukhead said:

And if your calibre is large enough you can grease up your weapon and fuck it.

Just make sure its not loaded.
April 21, 2007

Unregistered said:

Herr Fukhead, what if your calibre is SMALL enough?
- John (anonymous PM)
April 21, 2007

Ricardovitz said:

"In Iraq everyone has a gun... and look what fun the Yanks are having trying to hang on to the place!"

No country can conquer another country where the citizens are armed to the teeth. From an Arab's perspective, I recon that the best defense against Western Aggression is to require every citizen to have an adequate stash of weapons and ammo.

By that same token, Western Countries need to arm themselves to the teeth against the Muslim threat and declare that Islam is an outlawed religion.
April 21, 2007

Ricardovitz said:

It's not for "fucking", not for "masterbation". That's not what guns are for.

Guns are tools to be used for killing animals and people, if the need should arise. It looks like it's going to be a long hard road at re-educating the once proud and free nation of Australia. Just a few short years have turned them into mindless, brainless, but worst yet GUTTLESS zombies.
April 21, 2007

Myron said:

Guns are for taking to school in case you get peeved.
April 21, 2007

Dave Briggman said:

April 21, 2007

Quick Draw McGraw said:

Yes, all men, women and children should be issued with hand guns by the government. This way they can protect themselves from...um, all of the other people with hand guns...

April 22, 2007

Unregistered said:

Goverment issue guns? A bodgy argument development here? Nobody said issue. Protection from all the other people with guns? No, protection from just a solitary killer would be enough. A bit too late for that. Who wants to rely on government to make them safe, for Christ's sake? If you want government to make you safe, go to Iraq.
- Ex Liberal Voter
April 22, 2007

Quicks Draw said:

Who prints the money?
April 23, 2007

Ricardovitz said:

Probably a bunch of illegal alien mexicans who are stealing jobs that should belong to American Citizens.
April 23, 2007

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