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Other than HIV snd SARS-COV2 is there any other virus that can enter T cells? (in vitro or otherwise)

@MadazzA good summation on the Hamas v Israel situation from 2009. Still playing out this way.

@Dr RobertDr Bob... I am disputing the fact that COVID directly kills CD4 T cells like HIV, not the generalised T cell lymphopenia that can by seen in severe COVID. As I said above, this does happen but the T cells come back unlike in untreated HIV infection.
COVID is not AIDS.

@Dr KnowitallSo each of the studies (going back all of the way to 2020) that indicate depleted CD4 and CD8 cells in patients after acute SARS-COV2 infection and in long COVID patients are totally fabricated documents by fear mongering scientists?

Or maybe when you say no evidence you mean you haven't been provided that info in the Know-It-All institute? Or was that the Xenox Institute?

@Woozy in Wollongong It may infect CD4 cells in an experiment when you isolate them and smoother then in virus in an in vitro experiment, but no evidence has been provided that it infects CD4 cells in the body.
I hope that helps.

@Dr KnowitallWell why is infecting our CD4 cells!?

@Doctor UptonI know you lot want COVID to be AIDS but it just isn't...
It is bad enough without all your exaggeration and fearmongering.

Please Ricky, don't promise what you can't deliver.
If Idiot Land does dissolve into a Civil War you can bet the rest of the world will pray it continues till both sides are destroyed.

I smell a un-civil war on thar horizon, Lordy. Yessiree, if them Biden Crime Crooks steal 'nother presidency from our Glorious Leader, Donald J. (fer Johnny Rebel) Trump.

@RicardovitzVery likely Sleepy Joe going to get another 4 years Ricky. When that happens I think the New York liberals will start rounding you hillbillies and Fox News watchers up for internment. You lot are pumping out too much disinfo and extremism.
For a clown like you they should have done it years ago.

"Long Covid" = immunodeficiency aka AIDS.

Proponents of herd immunity are doing everything they can to deflect from this catastrophic situation. The herd immunity strategy is bringing forward a plethora of mutated strains which current vaccines don't target. We have entered an international whack-a-mole death spiral competition.

Add the controlled opposition anti-vax lobby assisting the spread and we have a functional depopulation system.

That thar fireworks place 'bout 3 miles younder cross thar chatooga river in SC. Anywhoo, Patriot - Biden, he be brain dead. Tain't president of nobody nowares. The 'ol cunny's git her hooks inta thangs. YOU DERN'T NO NOTHING!!!

@KendogGet him a canary

Found him in a eucalyptus tree

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@RicardovitzHe is your President Mr Ricardovitz. And you should show him the respect and obedience he deserves. To let the freedom loving peoples of The Ukraine to be trampled underneath the rough boot of the dictator Putin would be a stain on the honour and glory of the United States of America. Get behind your President, and support him giving the ultimate support to the people of The Ukraine. Dispatching the dastardly leader of Russia to the hereafter.

God bless,
Patriot

What kinda Crack ya be smok'n, Patriot??? Thar tain't no PRESIDENT Biden. Thar's JILL BIDEN - thar whore-in-chief. That dodder'n 'ol jello-brain Biden is too busy gettin his butt-sores tended to on his 24-7 heart-lung-pecker-pump'n-blood-clean'n machine. WAKE UP WHITE PEOPLE, A NEGRO 'N A WHORE BE RUNNIN AMERICA!!!

Now more than ever, President Biden should act, and act with extreme prejudice.
To do otherwise will be a betrayal of all that the brave Ukrainians have fought for.
God bless,
Patriot

@Dr RobertHi Bob. I am on a roll today...

Yes, this is quite interesting news and it is good to see that the anti-viral treatment of COVID infection is getting some attention and hopefully more study. Of course the re-purposing of these drugs used in HIV infection does not mean that COVID is the same as HIV. It is just that the targeting of the viral replication mechanisms by these drugs seems to work in a similar manner with both viruses.
I am sure that you will join me in hoping that further breakthroughs in COVID treatment will continue. Breakthroughs which will surely assuage the fears and doubts of the hoi polloi.

@Dr RobertDr Robert, let me blow your mind with my extensive knowledge. I am, after all, Dr Knowitall.
The answer to your question is that it varies, but for most people after initial infection with the virus there is a significant drop in circulating CD4 T cells (20-50%) within the first few months. It recovers slightly after that, but it will continue on a downward trend to zero over years/months if left untreated. Nothing like that has been seen with COVID, which is not to say that COVID infection can have some debilitating immune effects. Just not at the same level as HIV infection.

@Dr KnowitallDr Know-It-All: COVID is not AIDS like.
Reuters: China approves Genuine Biotech's HIV drug for COVID patients

@AnonymousAnd the fuckers haven't changed in 20 years

Dern't you never doubt me, Flammy!!!

It looks like The Ukraine is going back to Russia, so I supposed you did do that Ricky.

None 'o my plantation werkers git none of that thar Covid ailment. We git medicinals tar keep that thar Cityflu from comm'in 'round here.

The new Covid variant JN.1 is causing a resurgence of pandemic havoc.

A feature of JN.1 is its potential to cause life threatening pneumonia.

"The JN.1 variant appears to have an increased affinity for lung tissue, potentially leading to more severe cases of pneumonia compared to earlier strains."

Testing is fairly useless as a person can be infectious 2-5 days before symptoms start and tests might only show as positive 2-5 days after symptoms appear:

In London the NHS is now reporting 2020 level emergency ambulance calls and major hospitals in the UK and USA are mandating.masks again for all employees.

@Stan at The Sorry DogGet a dog up ya
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Hay, Putin, I done hacked yer satalight 'n caused you goat-fornicators tar bomb yer own cuntry, little boy!!!

@Major DenmoreSo many false flags have been predicted lately, by both sides, that you could nuke New York and the Yanks would declare Civil War.

Ruski intelligence is predicting a Ukraine co-ordinated false flag in the form of a chemical attack to stir up further hatred against the Putin regime. The chemicals have already been procured by a US company from a supplier in Germany and an agent resembling old school mustard gas will be cooked up in one of the many Ukraine biowarfare labs. What a swell year 2024 is shaping up to be.

Question for Dr Knowitall
When a person is infected with HIV how long does it take for full blown AIDS to develop?

@Dr RobertAIDS is not an auto-immune disease. It is a viral infection that kills the CD4 T cells. So wrong there Doc.
As for the cited paper it does show some changes in T cells post COVID, particularly in old folks. But overall they ain't huge (unlike in AIDS in which the virus untreated can eliminate 99% of your CD4 T cells), and it would be good to follow up these people a bit longer than 2.5 months to see the changes. But they are there, and could have some downstream effects on the immune system. But it is not AIDS like, and exaggerating it is effect is not helping anyone.

"Longitudinal Analysis of COVID-19 Patients Shows Age-Associated T Cell Changes Independent of Ongoing Ill-Health" i.e. independent of Long Covid.

https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fimmu.2021.676932/full

Time to accept the facts. COVID-19 is an auto-immune disease along similar lines to AIDS (acquired immunodeficiency syndrome)

Happy New Year everybody.

Well, it's a new fucking year now and what can we expect? More of the same old fucking shit, over and over and over again. FFS where is Klaatu and Gort? We need the now more than ever!

Jackie Gleeson saw them back in the 50s: https://www.bitchute.com/video/WiHVlB8R4EMZ/
That's good enough for me. They are here, and have been here since the year dot!

@Hemlock HarryThey were a stopgap treatment. No more than that. Buying time until the ultimate vaccine could be made.
The ButtPlug 4000. This patented device will cram your arse with immune stimulating goodness. And you can do it all while you go about your normal day duties. Working, sleeping, eating, dreaming.
But please no anal sex.


Keep an eye on your mailbox, details will be arriving soon from your Government.

The wider scientific community now starting to rail against mRNA vaccines? Has science never been more all over the place before? It seems the world population would have been safer relying on homeopathy.

Les, I give you GUNS, now you run 'long 'n go git yer own damn FREEDOM!!! Jest not on Ricky's Plantation, ware its cabbage pick'n season soon.

Fuck the Heroes. Just give me freedom.
Sweet freedumb.

I found many of the Heroes of the 20th Century to be boisterous fools. With the love for living on the edge. Could be the edge of reality or edge of respectability, whatever it was they were there.
John Farnham and Kiwi PM Robert 'Piggy' Muldoon are two that spring to mind.

Seems like the Yank's litle adventure is over before it started. Piss weak

I was in the clink once. Not for as long as Assange. Well it wasn't really the clink. I actually got locked in a bathroom. I managed to unlock the door eventually. It felt quite isolating though. For a few hours. Well it was only a few minutes truth be told.

Maybe not. He has been in the clink so long. Surely they wouldn't do that to one of their own.

@RicardovitzHillbilly! Why are Yemani Houthi is a Man among men! He stands tall over his barren land a free man and no mans servant. He has disposed of many a white man trying to oppress him with the rules and whatnot of [I]European Civilization.[/I]
And they will be standing tall even when you have bent over and sold your foul smelling ass to the Atlanta proletariat.

Yemeni Houthi - Why we got them kind 'o swarthy, sand-aped in this hear World? They's rump-ugly. Done git rid 'o all thar Neandrathals a billion years ago. Killed 'em all of with thar bare hand!!! Strangled them nasty, filthy Neanderthals 'n curb-stomped thar thick skulls. Now, ain't this hear world a heap better off cuz MY kin folks git rid of Neandrathals??? Time tar git starded on them Yemeni Houthis. 'N then thar rest of them sand-apes 'n half-breed semi-tes shitt'n up 25% of the Earth's dirt.....er sand.

@PatriotIt seems that PM Albanese has turned his back on stalwart allies USA and Israel, and refused to help Operation Prosperity Guardian in protecting merchant ships in the Red Sea. What an absolute disgrace. Albo should know that backing down in the face of terrorism only emboldens those savages.
Meanwhile CCP dictator Xi quietly smiles as he has evidence in plain view of the weakness of the Australian Government. Expect some shenanigans from him in the northern Australian region soon.
God bless,
Patriot

That's Yakult isn't it? Can't fool me Dr Bob. The left over remains of Japan's biological warfare programme in WW2. Not only were the Japs making bugs like anthrax to kill us, they were also making 'superfoods' to keep their fanatical soldiers fighting.

And as such I wouldn't touch it with a barge pole. In fact I'd sooner eat my own shit then take their poison rubbish!

SIM01? I hear you ask.

"“Three bacterial strains, B adolescentis, Bifidobacterium bifidum and Bifidobacterium longum with three prebiotic compounds including galacto-oligosaccharides, xylo-oligosaccharides, and resistant dextrin"!

There may be some light at the end of the long dark covid tunnel. Make yourself a batch of SIM01!
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(23)00685-0/fulltext

What's that dithering idiot Squeaky Albo gunna do? Bend over as usual or show some rare spine?

Georgie was a dern great presladent!!! Git rid 'o the assault weapon ban. Done gave Coinfederates thar guns back. Yessiree, I aim tar be like Georgie Busch II when I git tar be'n Prime Minister of Australia!!!