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What I am shocked about is how both Bush and John Howard keep building up hatred against their own countries....why they continue to provoke hatred, as if they are intentionally trying to start a religious/race war that we haven't seen since the crusades.

If the US intelligence is so good why couldn't they have gone in quietly, found out the whereabouts of Bin Laden (if he was behind it) and then done the job on him?

Why does there have to be so much 'collateral damage'? Why don't the US weep for all of the civilians that are killed from other nations?

After all of these innocents have been killed going after Bin Laden; why has the hunt for him ended....we don't here about it anymore. How can people in other nations not suspect there is something dodgy all about these military actions and 'coups' when the original agendas are forgotten about so quickly and dismissed.

One minute it is, we will search every cave, no cave is deep enough, and so many deaths later it is "How the hell do I know where he is? He is probably in some cave somewhere"

And as quickly as all this blood is shed, it is all forgotten. Almost, "fuck that, no one left to kill there, no furthert gain to be had there".

Dear Patriot

Why on the very anniversary of the tragic occurences that occured a few days ago plus a year, why on this mournful anniversary, is the talk all focussed on attacking Saddam Hussein (as well as all the civilians) in Iraq?

It is wierd shit like this that makes many people think something is very fucking out of control in the USA. Listening to your leader talk makes many the neutral bystander tremble in fear. The respect and praise given to this man who appears to relish killing, for reasons he appears to manufacture as necessary to keep the war machine rolling.

The other thing that sticks in my gullet is: Why are all these actions against despots so selective. i.e. why aren't tyrranical regimes such as Indonesia, hell bent on the genocide of east Timorese, active in the process, warned, cautioned, invaded, etc???

Don't you suspect even slightly that oil comes into the equation when Iraq is discussed?

There is just too much fishy stuff to let me believe that the 'war on terror' isn't just propaganda to allow the US as a super power to make war based on political, economic and whatever other reasons (race? religion?)

How can you have a war on terror?
The spooky thing about terrorist type attacks is that they can be masterminded and actioned by a very small number of individuals.

The really spooky thing is that the actions of the US are building up so much more hatred, amongst communities, families, in fact perhaps the whole muslim world is beginning to bre hatred toward the USA!

Don't you feel terrified that the US leader is inspiring so much hate toward the Americas?

I reckon the only way to stop retaliatory terrorist attacks is to give no reasons for retaliation.

George Bush, by talking his big speak of hatred and war against nations and peoples is surely building hate to an all time high.

I would be terrified to live in the USA. The president is building up so much hatred against the place with one of the largest demographics around in the nation of Islam.

Reconciliatory talk, wise moves, gestures and decisions, a more diplomatic approach, at least even at the level of 'speak' is well advised.

With George Bush in place you guys are fucked.
Wars can go forever with no result (we have seen this over and over) and the hatred toward the USA continues to build with every collateral head count.

Good luck but me thinks we are probably all doomed with the way it is going.

Hey I thought this thread was about "Peace" not all this Iraq-Bush-War bullshit. Piss off to another one of those zillion articles about it!

Gosh Mom, what a coincidence! Just as he's strutting his stuff in the U.N. - an organisation held in utter contempt by the U.S. government - Georgie Porgie Bushie Wooshie offers this rare sweetener:

Eighteen years after withdrawing from Unesco in protest at its alleged mismanagement, the U.S. is to rejoin the United Nations' Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organisation, the U.S. Presidump proclaimed in New York yesterday.

The decision, greeted with applause by delegates at the UN general assembly, flabbergasted critics of the Bullshit administration which has been accused of flouting international cooperation on the environment and arms control.

"As a symbol of our commitment to human dignity, the United States will return to Unesco," Bullshitter Bush snootily declared during his speech lambasting Iraq. "This organisation has been reformed and America will participate fully in its mission to advance human rights and tolerance and learning."

HUMAN RIGHTS? TOLERANCE? THE TEXAS SHIT-HEEL'S ABOUT TO START WORLD WAR THREE! YOU GOTTA LAUGH!

NOTHING IS INEVITABLE, NOTHING IS WRITTEN, ALL IS AS A FEATHER UPON THE WIND... VERILY - LEMON AID

Only American lives matter, the rest of us are "expendable" or"collateral damage" or whatever other loathsome euphemism those avaricious, bloody-handed cowboys wish to use!

What happend on 11 September 2001 - as been said elsewhere - is undeniable blowback! Or maybe payback!

Mullah Bruce

Push to get rid of Hussein may be part of a bigger plan

WHILE everyone is wondering whether the US will go to war alone (i.e., with us) or consult, the war has already started. We wanted to know whether Bush would talk or fight; he's doing both. The softening-up process has begun.

The Gulf War never finished; it just got de-escalated. Now it has been re-escalated. Why would Saddam make any concessions whatever in order to avoid war when he is already at war with the US?

Iraq wants a guarantee that once the weapons inspections have finished, the sanctions will be lifted, the bombing stopped and the no-fly zone removed. The US has never been prepared to give that guarantee.

If you want someone to surrender, you have to let them think that you'll stop hitting them when they do.

Tell it to that certifiable air-head Bush and his venal gang of 'advisors"! I say head for the goddamn hills and keep your head down!

Given that the "bloody obvious" is being totally ignored by the leaders of the most powerful (and self-obsessed) nation on earth, not to mention our own repugnant federal government - and given that US belligerance may soon open a Pandora's Box of unparalleled global mayhem - these things MUST be said ad infinitum! Other than that, put on your hard hat, your flak jacket, and get down into that backyard bunker, boy!

If you want peace be nice and don't be a cunt.

Thats it Yugo! I'm sick of you bagging me.
From now on YOU CANT PLAY ANYMORE!

Ed.

Piss of ya poof Yugo!
You want peace? Well hows about I has a piece of your ass! I'll jam it in and make chocolate whipped cream!

Down with peace! Up with war!

Fred N.

In that case peace does exist. In the minds of the peaceful. Like I've been saying along, if you want peace be peaceful not vindictive, judgemental and inflammatory.

To the editor:

YOU"RE AN IDIOT! Talk about stating the bloody obvious!

Tis the thrashing wings of the angel of death: U.S. military/industrial hegemony!

Interesting to hear that dweeb Dubya and his crooked cronies wailing about Sadam's nuclear threat when the USA is the only nation - only anything - to EVER make use of this monstrous weapon. Not once, but TWICE!

All zealots should be stripped naked, dipped in tar, rolled in chook feathers, and set loose in the Iraqi desert somewhere!

As usual Max, right on the nail!

Well......they just ain't Christian......ain't that enough.

too true. why is Ruddock singpled out ? EU and especially USA have been operating a similiar, if not more brutal, system for many years. piss of bleeding hearts. i am suck of my hard earned $$ supporting illegal immigrants and their crime (in the most)

When did the war against terrorism metamorphose into war against Iraq?

When did September 11, with Saudi nationals making up most of the plane hijackers, become war with Iraq, which does not appear to have been connected with September 11? What is the connection between September 11 and Iraq?

The only connection I can see is oil and the failure of George Bush snr to conclude the Gulf War to the satisfaction of the United States.

Never get off the boat!

You're worrying about the wrong tyrant!

From the horse's mouth. George Dumbass is a self-evident moron. And he's about to start a global religious/race war, something that even crazy old Osama couldn't do!

You guys have no idea! Your just like Chamberlain at Munich in 1938. Sometimes you just have to take a stand against these tyrants!
Don't you value your liberty?

Patriot

I done bin sick of hearin bout dis "spetember 11" all time. Those americans think it they only ones ever suffer? No fear? All round world many peoples suffer more and longer than america people. Me no hear so much bout somalis or eritreans or even palestinian suffering! America think it bin boss of all world! -Lotte

I like this chicken yarn... howbout some more?

Wait for the Sept 11 anniversary. Bush & co will solemnly march over those disintegrated corpses hoping for an election win. They dont really give a shit about the victims, or even terrorist networks... its all a cruel, cynical ploy. Nobody even mentions Bin Ladin any more, notice that? Its all Iraq, despie fact that Sadam had nothing to do with Sept 11 OR Bin Ladin's gang. Its sickining

The proposed Bush gig in Iraq has 2 prompts:

1) Dumbya's re-election

2) US oil interests

Anything other "reason" is just a Hitchcock mcguffin.

Rotten Ruddock is just doing his master's bidding...

If that little weener Sadam is such a threat to world security or whatever, what dos that make North Korea? I mean, the 2 Koreas are technically still in a declared state of war, aint they?

I know plenty of rats who use mobile fones...

No. You are anon. Unknown being with omni -potence!
Fluck you. Fluck you.

Charlie Chan

Yep, and did you know the Saudi monarchy PAID al quaida NOT to do anything nasty to US installations there?

Given the repugnant antics of of our nation's government, getting shit-faced and blurting a stomach-load is certainly an acceptable option.

I am not an animal - or a human being...

Despite the sudden overnight backpedalling, our very own mendacious midget of a PM would follow Bush right up his own crack, especially if he thought there a vote in it.

Ruddock is a Liberal Party hero! They gave the vile cunt a standing ovation for his monstrous lies and inhuman behavior. Maybe he really is a fuckin zombie!

Well.....some cunt....flicked a piece of paper....over the fucking door.

and what is probably even funnier is how Pervis interpreted Nietzsche

Oh really, I am happy for you. The joke is your pathetic interpretation of what Pervis wrote.

The Yanks never stopped fighting the "Gulf War".

US and Brit warplanes have just bombed an Iraqi air defence "command and control facility" west of Baghdad.

The US Central Command said in a statement that the airstrike was in response to "recent Iraqi hostile acts" against coalition aircraft patrolling a no-fly zone over southern Iraq.

I guess "hostile acts" means shooting at US and Brit jets that bomb Iraqies!

I don't trust Saddass for a second, but Dumbass is just as treacherous and untrustworthy... to follow either "leader" would be a horrible mistake.

Having sex with (the) Madonna is a fantasy...religion is a nightmare!

Come on Yanks, let's see the "evidence"? Waiting for the November elections?

"Digger" from Pakenham? Frank old boy, you're sprung!

I'm sick of all you bleeding heart whingers! Lets face it I and every other decent Australian doesn't want to share Stuggle Street with some turban wearing liar! We all know they only want to come here cause they want our jobs and they want our money! I for one am proud of our governments efforts to preserve our borders. Like the boss man said we will determine who comes here and who doesn't! If they are gunna lie about where they come from what will they lie about next? That they aren't working for Osama?
Get rid of them all!

DIGGER
Pakenham

If I was Saddam I'd be getting ready right about now to release some of those "weapons of mass destruction" before the good old USA begins its own mass destruction of Iraq. I mean, Saddam has been hearing how Bush intends to get rid of him no matter what, so what has he got to lose? Hell, a first strike is legitimate government policy, according to the USA! How long should Saddam sit idly by listening to these violent threats?
LEMON AID

all religion is fantasy, no way to live life!

If I'm not mistaken - and thats a dinstinc possibilty - I met Roger Rodeo at the last Dubbo Cow-Tossing Festival. More please!

The sicko self-serving American war on Iraq begun late last century with the so-called defence of Kuwait - what a glittering example of democratic principle THAT nasty il famiglia is! - so there's nothing new in Dumbya Bush's indefensible war-mongering: he hopes it will get him though the November poll, just as it helped his old man and even that old (Monica Lowinski) shyster Slippery Willy Clintoff. Did you know this year alone there's been at least 28 Brit/Yank bombing raids on Sothern Iraq. Donbt hear much about that on the commercial media, do you! The guys a deadshit, the policy is indefensible, and the world is teeetring on a precipice... do NOT support this evil hypocrisy, signed Lesbos AMEN & WOMEN