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Nowhere does anyone condone the plane-bomb hit that killed all those people. Of course those poor bastards didn't "deserve" what happend. The point is, now the US should understand how people in OTHER countries feel when they cop it in the neck because of US foreign policy decisions. The 11 September attacks did not blossom in a vacuum. If you can't understand THAT then we are indeed in for a new world war. And it is one the US itself will have started.
By now even you, Comrade Pastiot, must know that the US helped established Osama bin Laden's el Quaid and helped put and keep Sadam in power! I guess ignorance is bliss for you, yes? Get serious and pick up on your history before you start waving flags and banging drums.
And who attacked the US? Was it the long sufering civilians of impoverished Afghanistan, some 3000 or more of whom have been killed directly by US ordnance? Was it that mad old cunt Sadam Hussein, who was supported by the US government thrughout the Iran/Iraq war (yeah, thats right buddy: when Saddam gassed all thoser Kurds, the Yanks didn't say a goddamn thing! Now, of course, Yank foregin policy has changed so he's the bad guy instead of the Iranians).
The Berlin Wall? Hell,in backdoor talks with the Soviets, then Prez Kennedy agreed to have it built! It was political ly expedient at the time! In fact, the Yanks hae shown time and again they will support any evil, any atrocity,, if it will help further their OWN aims. Well, all that bad karma sure is coming home now, aint it!
The "cold war" was a manufactured notion to scare the shit out of people. And the US "won" it purely because it could outspend the Soviets on more and more military/industrial crap. Instead of bankrupting themselves the dumb Soviets should have ignored the Yank arms race and they'd still be in power!
Im not anti-US, I'm just anti bullshit, ignorance, arrogance and hypocrisy. Come on Yanks, join the real world!
As for you, comrade Patriot, I suggest you do a little studying. And I dont mean at McDonalds University!
- Rama
If the US intelligence is so good why couldn't they have gone in quietly, found out the whereabouts of Bin Laden (if he was behind it) and then done the job on him?
Why does there have to be so much 'collateral damage'? Why don't the US weep for all of the civilians that are killed from other nations?
After all of these innocents have been killed going after Bin Laden; why has the hunt for him ended....we don't here about it anymore. How can people in other nations not suspect there is something dodgy all about these military actions and 'coups' when the original agendas are forgotten about so quickly and dismissed.
One minute it is, we will search every cave, no cave is deep enough, and so many deaths later it is "How the hell do I know where he is? He is probably in some cave somewhere"
And as quickly as all this blood is shed, it is all forgotten. Almost, "fuck that, no one left to kill there, no furthert gain to be had there".
Dear Patriot
Why on the very anniversary of the tragic occurences that occured a few days ago plus a year, why on this mournful anniversary, is the talk all focussed on attacking Saddam Hussein (as well as all the civilians) in Iraq?
It is wierd shit like this that makes many people think something is very fucking out of control in the USA. Listening to your leader talk makes many the neutral bystander tremble in fear. The respect and praise given to this man who appears to relish killing, for reasons he appears to manufacture as necessary to keep the war machine rolling.
The other thing that sticks in my gullet is: Why are all these actions against despots so selective. i.e. why aren't tyrranical regimes such as Indonesia, hell bent on the genocide of east Timorese, active in the process, warned, cautioned, invaded, etc???
Don't you suspect even slightly that oil comes into the equation when Iraq is discussed?
There is just too much fishy stuff to let me believe that the 'war on terror' isn't just propaganda to allow the US as a super power to make war based on political, economic and whatever other reasons (race? religion?)
How can you have a war on terror?
The spooky thing about terrorist type attacks is that they can be masterminded and actioned by a very small number of individuals.
The really spooky thing is that the actions of the US are building up so much more hatred, amongst communities, families, in fact perhaps the whole muslim world is beginning to bre hatred toward the USA!
Don't you feel terrified that the US leader is inspiring so much hate toward the Americas?
I reckon the only way to stop retaliatory terrorist attacks is to give no reasons for retaliation.
George Bush, by talking his big speak of hatred and war against nations and peoples is surely building hate to an all time high.
I would be terrified to live in the USA. The president is building up so much hatred against the place with one of the largest demographics around in the nation of Islam.
Reconciliatory talk, wise moves, gestures and decisions, a more diplomatic approach, at least even at the level of 'speak' is well advised.
With George Bush in place you guys are fucked.
Wars can go forever with no result (we have seen this over and over) and the hatred toward the USA continues to build with every collateral head count.
Good luck but me thinks we are probably all doomed with the way it is going.
Eighteen years after withdrawing from Unesco in protest at its alleged mismanagement, the U.S. is to rejoin the United Nations' Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organisation, the U.S. Presidump proclaimed in New York yesterday.
The decision, greeted with applause by delegates at the UN general assembly, flabbergasted critics of the Bullshit administration which has been accused of flouting international cooperation on the environment and arms control.
"As a symbol of our commitment to human dignity, the United States will return to Unesco," Bullshitter Bush snootily declared during his speech lambasting Iraq. "This organisation has been reformed and America will participate fully in its mission to advance human rights and tolerance and learning."
HUMAN RIGHTS? TOLERANCE? THE TEXAS SHIT-HEEL'S ABOUT TO START WORLD WAR THREE! YOU GOTTA LAUGH!
What happend on 11 September 2001 - as been said elsewhere - is undeniable blowback! Or maybe payback!
Mullah Bruce
The Gulf War never finished; it just got de-escalated. Now it has been re-escalated. Why would Saddam make any concessions whatever in order to avoid war when he is already at war with the US?
Iraq wants a guarantee that once the weapons inspections have finished, the sanctions will be lifted, the bombing stopped and the no-fly zone removed. The US has never been prepared to give that guarantee.
If you want someone to surrender, you have to let them think that you'll stop hitting them when they do.
From now on YOU CANT PLAY ANYMORE!
Ed.
You want peace? Well hows about I has a piece of your ass! I'll jam it in and make chocolate whipped cream!
Down with peace! Up with war!
Fred N.
YOU"RE AN IDIOT! Talk about stating the bloody obvious!
When did September 11, with Saudi nationals making up most of the plane hijackers, become war with Iraq, which does not appear to have been connected with September 11? What is the connection between September 11 and Iraq?
The only connection I can see is oil and the failure of George Bush snr to conclude the Gulf War to the satisfaction of the United States.
Don't you value your liberty?
Patriot
1) Dumbya's re-election
2) US oil interests
Anything other "reason" is just a Hitchcock mcguffin.
Fluck you. Fluck you.
Charlie Chan
US and Brit warplanes have just bombed an Iraqi air defence "command and control facility" west of Baghdad.
The US Central Command said in a statement that the airstrike was in response to "recent Iraqi hostile acts" against coalition aircraft patrolling a no-fly zone over southern Iraq.
I guess "hostile acts" means shooting at US and Brit jets that bomb Iraqies!
I don't trust Saddass for a second, but Dumbass is just as treacherous and untrustworthy... to follow either "leader" would be a horrible mistake.